Quinn diplomatic about chance at earning No. 1 QB role

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03/16/2010 - Englewood, CO (Sportsbook Betting Lines) - Brady Quinn officially became a member of the Denver Broncos on Monday after passing his physical and was immediately inundated with questions if he'll go into training camp trying to wrestle the starting quarterback job away from Kyle Orton.

"I think every quarterback on our roster wants to play," Quinn said during a teleconference Monday. "Believe me, whether it's Tom [Brandstater], Kyle, or myself, we're all quarterbacks. Believe me, we're going to be team players first, but we all want to be out there playing on the field. Coach [Josh] McDaniels makes that decision. It's not up to us."

Quinn was traded over the weekend from Cleveland in a deal that netted the Browns fullback Peyton Hillis, a 2011 sixth-round draft pick and a conditional 2012 draft pick.

The 25-year-old Quinn, a former Notre Dame star, played in 10 games for the Browns last season throwing for 1,339 yards with eight touchdowns and seven interceptions. He played in just 14 games over three seasons in Cleveland after being a first-round pick by the Browns in 2007.

"I don't want to debate whether I got a fair shot, that's all behind me," Quinn said. "It's a great opportunity here in Denver. That's what I'm focused on, that's what I'm excited about. You can't change the past three years."

Asked whether he's been told by McDaniels if he'll actually receive a chance at the starting job, Quinn remained evasive.

"Those conversations are private at this point, but I think all of us quarterbacks are going to be working our best to make each other better," he said. "I think that's going to make our team better in the long run."

McDaniels also hasn't commented publicly since the trade, creating more speculation that the Broncos will have a quarterback battle in training camp for the top job.

Orton, who was traded from Chicago for Jay Cutler prior to last season, played in all 16 games for Denver last season and threw for a career-best 3,802 yards with 21 touchdowns and was picked off 12 times.

"From watching him, you can see he's an accurate, smart player," Quinn said of Orton. "He's got a lot of talent. He's done a great job of continuing to get better."

Denver reduced its QB roster on Monday too, releasing Chris Simms.

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FOOTBALL BETTING : Crabtree's base deal: six years, $32 million

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In the wake of the news that the 49ers have signed receiver Michael Crabtree after an extended holdout, there has been not a hint of the dollars to be paid to Crabtree.

And since this means that his agent hasn't leaked the numbers, it means that his agent feels no specific motivation to do so.

Possibly because his agent isn't all that thrilled to have his name on the deal.

So the numbers will come from sources other than Crabtree's agent. And we've gotten our mitts into them.

Per a league source, Crabtree has signed a six-year, $32 million contract. (The total includes guaranteed money, base salaries, and the one-time incentive based on achieving minimum playing time.)

The deal also includes $17 million in guaranteed money.

As reported elsewhere, the deal can void to five years based on performance triggers, wiping out a final year base salary of $4 million. But they won't be easily reached.

The source tells us that, in his first four seasons (including 2009), Crabtree must either qualify for two Pro Bowls, or he must qualify for one Pro Bowl in one year and he must participate in 80 percent of the offensive snaps in a separate year in which the team makes the playoffs.

In other words, if in 2010 he qualifies for the Pro Bowl and the team makes the playoffs and he participates in 80 percent of the snaps, he'll still need to make it to the Pro Bowl or achieve the 80-percent/playoffs in another season.

Since the chances of Crabtree making the Pro Bowl or participating in 80 percent of the offensive snaps this year is roughly zero percent, he'll have three years to get it done.

And it won't be easy. Frankly, he'll be hard pressed to make it to one Pro Bowl in three years with the likes of Larry Fitzgerald, Calvin Johnson, Anquan Boldin, Steve Smith, the other Steve Smith, Hakeem Nicks, DeSean Jackson, Johnny Knox, Percy Harvin, Greg Jennings, Roddy White, T.J. Houshmandzadeh in the same conference for sportsbook betting.

So, by all appearances, it's a six-year deal. And at $17 million in guaranteed money, the per-year guarantee is a tepid $2.83 million per year.

There's another problem with the deal -- it has no mid-tier incentive package. Instead, the additional $8 million that Crabtree can earn (pushing the max value to six years, $40 million) requires the kind of unrealistic, mega-star performances that no rookie is likely to ever achieve.

So while the contract paid to Packers defensive tackle B.J. Raji covers five years and pays $22.5 million, he has the ability (if he's a solid player) to make up the difference between his base deal and Crabtree's five-year, $28 million haul via the mid-tier incentive package in Raji's deal.

And unless Crabtree meets the performance thresholds necessary to void the sixth year, he'll be stuck under contract for another year at a base salary of only $4 million.

There's one other area of concern with the deal. Crabtree, per the source, received no option bonus. Instead, he has significant money tied to a fairly new device known as a "discretionary salary advance," which unlike an opition bonus is subject to forfeiture if Crabtree decides in a year or two that he wants to hold out for a better deal. (We're also told that the 49ers have included language that would make certain escalators subject to forfeiture, too.)

Meanwhile, the deal falls well short of the mark for which Crabtree and agent Eugene Parker were aiming -- the five-year, $38.25 million contract paid by the Raiders to receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey, the seventh overall pick in the draft.

Even if Crabtree successfully voids the final year, he'll make more than $2 million per year less on average than Heyward-Bey.

Thus, as we explained earlier in the day, this is a deal that Crabtree could have done in July, which would have given him a much better chance of making a contribution to the 49ers during his rookie year.

So while the final outcome can be described as win-win, the broader view suggests that it's really a lose-lose situation.

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